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Unread post by ChefIronBelly » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:45 pm

Playing 'Old School' sauced to my preference.
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and this is the answer to the question in the cwm thread.
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Re: twm

Unread post by GekkoP » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:56 pm

Oh yeah, very nice. Haven't played too much with twm and w9wm in Old School, I'm too happy with 9wm. But I have to try them both.

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Unread post by mrneilypops » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:31 pm

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Re: twm

Unread post by ChefIronBelly » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:56 pm

A real bonus is when you do a minimal install with whatever disto and then later decide to add X. Some distro's will include twm and xterm. Drop this .twmrc in as I did above a few posts and BAM rockin it Old School.
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Re: twm

Unread post by ChefIronBelly » Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:52 am

One more example for tonight.
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Unread post by pidsley » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:34 am

^ very nice. Is that the .twmrc from Old School? I'm happy to see you are getting some use out of it.

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Re: twm

Unread post by ChefIronBelly » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:14 am

pidsley wrote:Is that the .twmrc from Old School? I'm happy to see you are getting some use out of it.
Yes it is... getting lots of mileage out of it.
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Re: twm

Unread post by pidsley » Fri May 16, 2014 11:59 pm

New Gentoo install on the core2 duo.

Building:
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Nice to see the default twm when you get it all working:
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Even better when ratpoison and urxvt are working.
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Bringing it all up to date.
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I'm going to keep this one on stable. I swear this core2 duo is as fast as my phenom X4. Intel rules. Tomorrow I go looking for new fonts and colors.

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Unread post by GekkoP » Sat May 17, 2014 4:44 pm

^ it looks already great like this. (and it also reminds me that Gentoo is on my todo list)

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Unread post by bones » Sat May 17, 2014 5:38 pm

I'm gonna try dropping the Old School .twmrc into my 32-bit slackbox at work. I've been meaning to explore twm some more, with a decent colorscheme.

twm: the default window manager!

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Unread post by bones » Mon May 19, 2014 6:44 pm

Slackware with twm...
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Unread post by elixir » Mon May 19, 2014 9:18 pm

Nice bones that looks great! I am going to have to give twm a try! I also still need to give slackware a full on go!
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Re: twm

Unread post by bones » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:51 pm

Next we have twm, old school and pretty much the default wm for xorg:
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Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:12 pm

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xclock does not need a frame.
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Unread post by rhowaldt » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:55 pm

^ xclock actually slightly less fugly without a frame. impressive!
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Unread post by machinebacon » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:45 pm

playing around with a borderless twm, imitating cwm. Why? no idea

Emacs, tty-clock, two terms. Started with pidsley's twmrc_grey but destroyed it:
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Re: twm

Unread post by pidsley » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:32 pm

Experimental system; twm, xterm, dkeg's "citystreets" xcolors.

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I have been encouraged to explain a little more about what's going on in these strange scrots I have been posting.

These systems are built using buildroot. Buildroot is designed to build small embedded systems. It can build all kinds of things, including X. It uses busybox for coreutils (and many other things), and can build with busybox init, sysvinit, or even systemd. I use busybox init, and I am still learning about everything buildroot can do.

(side note) If you want to experiment with busybox init on a regular bbq spin, read this topic: http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f ... sybox+init

After casting the necessary chicken bones (selecting the appropriate options in buildroot's menuconfig) and running the buildroot make, I get a basic filesystem containing busybox and associated executables and libraries. I then add some extra stuff like the busybox minirc init script (see the reference above for more information) and tar the whole thing up into one archive. The archive does not contain a bootloader, so the system must be run on a machine that also has another distro controlling grub. The archive is "installed" by unpacking it onto a target partition (like a Gentoo stage3 archive). Then I add a custom no-module kernel, and a grub entry for the new system in the main distro's grub.cfg. There are several ways to add additional packages, but there is no package manager.

Notice that the entire system (including X) takes up less than 100M on the disk. It's not in TinyCore or Slitaz territory, but it's small.

This is still highly experimental shit for me. Most of the time I feel like this:

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But it's fun, and if you don't push your limits you never learn anything.

As usual, this is built on the work of many other people, but to thank just a few: thanks to machinebacon for the idea, GekkoP and DebianJoe for testing, dkeg for xcolors and xsetroot -mod 3 3, hut (on the Arch board) for the bones of the busybox init script, and everyone involved in making buildroot. If I forgot anyone, I apologize.

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Unread post by machinebacon » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:14 am

Thank you Pidsley for this post. I think this should be like an 'official guide to negative hard disk and RAM usage' :)
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Unread post by Dr_Chroot » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:22 am

^ this. Thanks pids!
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Unread post by stark » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:49 pm

@pidsley Thanks so much for sharing. I had some busybox related stuff to ask you but your Pm is disabled.

@bacon Should we create a thread with all the links to sir pidsley's experiments and howtos and sticky it ?
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