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swm

Unread post by franksinistra » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:09 am

swm (simple wm).
A very small floating window manager created by dcat and z3bra which generated quite a hype lately
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this wm offers no work-space and no key-bindings, and as a result I needed
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Re: swm

Unread post by pidsley » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:21 am

^ Interesting concept, but needs a better name. Almost all of the ?wm names have been taken, some (like swm) several times. The first swm was written in 1990, by Tom LaStrange (who also wrote twm). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swm

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Unread post by franksinistra » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:37 am

^
Agreed, at least they need to be a bit more creative name if they intend to use *wm
(something like ywliwm will suffice i think :D)
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Re: swm

Unread post by dkeg » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:03 am

nice scrot frank. Been watching the swm hype. Looks cool enough. More so pleased to see others with the motivation to create their own.

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Unread post by Dr_Chroot » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:16 am

Fantastic scrot, frank! Thanks for showing me wmutils :D
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Unread post by franksinistra » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:02 am

^^ One thing i can't help but notice one thing about hype is your scrots always brought the hype dkeg!
so thank you

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Re: swm

Unread post by stark » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:19 pm

Wow very nice scrot frank specially the shadows are flawless. Do you have a discrete GPU ?
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Unread post by franksinistra » Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:45 am

^ Thank you stark! i got spare them GFX cards, both nvidia and radeon.
But i rarely use them anymore, intel integrated GPU pretty much kickass these days (like enough to play Don't Starve or your avatar's Limbo)
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Unread post by stark » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:53 am

Haha, nice to know that intel's graphics can do that so much better now. If you don't mind can I get a peek of your compton config ?
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Unread post by Dr_Chroot » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:51 am

Playing with swm + coreutils on BORK! Having a grand old time, quite pleased with it all and how everything looks at this time. I finally have neep up and working (thanks to dkeg!) and am quite pleased with myself for being able to have irc logs of #anime and other good stuff :D

And many thanks to Rho for making me want to learn another language :P I am already taking Koine Greek this semester and I am planning on doing Ancient Hebrew or Hungarian (will do both eventually) Spring 2016. And now Dutch, apparently ;D Holland in general seems to have some great looking centers of academic learning, especially in topics that I would love to do more research on.
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Unread post by dkeg » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:07 am

excellent. And so glad you were able to match the curtains and the drapes, font wise that is. And how do you like SWM? Out of curiousity, what do you like over say 2BWM?

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Unread post by Dr_Chroot » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:44 am

You know, I actually have really enjoyed the process of setting up and using SWM :D It is nice to have something simple that just did one job and did it well and then be able to add other similarly no-nonsense tools on top of that to make a decent setup. As frank hinted at before, z3bra's gm does a fantastic job of managing windows and "desktops" as does baskerville's sxhkd managing keybindings. It is nice to be able to set my own perimeters for window management, so I could make it behave exactly like 2b if I wanted, but I actually wanted changed it up a little. Arrow keys + mod4 move windows up/down/right/left and I just use the cursor to resize windows (I'm lazy, I know).

tl;dr What do I like over 2bwm? For some reason, although 2bwm.c could probably control it just as well, I enjoy having several utilities that teleport, assign and list addresses of windows, etc. to control and manage my crap. And it is new, which is always shiny and nice.
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Unread post by dkeg » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:32 am

cool, that sounds good. Good answer. It is an interesting project, and would be interested in checking it out some time. I guess I've been kind of lazy, not feeling like go through the process. I've been feelling really comfortable with 2bwm. Can you do me a favor? Can you post your pstree?

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Unread post by Dr_Chroot » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:51 am

Sure thing!

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init-+-chef-client---{ruby-timer-thr}
     |-compton
     |-2*[dbus-daemon]
     |-dbus-launch
     |-dhclient
     |-4*[getty]
     |-login---bash
     |-login---startx---xinit-+-Xorg
     |                        `-swm-+-bar
     |                              |-compton
     |                              |-dunst-+-{gdbus}
     |                              |       `-{gmain}
     |                              |-gm
     |                              |-hsetroot
     |                              |-light
     |                              |-setxkbmap
     |                              |-statsbar---sleep
     |                              |-sxhkd
     |                              |-xbindkeys
     |                              `-xrdb
     |-2*[logsave]
     |-mpd-+-{decoder:mad}
     |     |-{io}
     |     |-{output:My ALSA }
     |     `-{player}
     |-mpdscribble
     |-ruby-+-{ruby-timer-thr}
     |      `-{ruby}
     |-sshd
     |-tty-clock
     |-udevd
     |-urxvt-+-bash-+-less
     |       |      `-pstree
     |       `-urxvt
     |-wpa_supplicant
     `-xbindkeys
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Re: swm

Unread post by bones » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:16 am

^ I haven't used mpd, does it start up in your .xinitrc, or...? Doesn't appear to from this:

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     |-login---startx---xinit-+-Xorg
     |                        `-swm-+-bar
     |                              |-compton
     |                              |-dunst-+-{gdbus}
     |                              |       `-{gmain}
     |                              |-gm
     |                              |-hsetroot
     |                              |-light
     |                              |-setxkbmap
     |                              |-statsbar---sleep
     |                              |-sxhkd
     |                              |-xbindkeys
     |                              `-xrdb
Also, liquorix kernel, nice. Was using an old bbq release (Enough) the other night, with liquorix. In all honesty I don't know what the benefits of it are, but I like the idea and the name, anyway! ;)

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Unread post by Dr_Chroot » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:29 am

^ Yes, I started mpd when I logged in before I though otherwise. Many times it's the first thing I do :) I don't always use it, as I don't care for the extra memory usage, so I haven't tossed it in the old .xinitrc.

Liquorix is wonderful, if not just for the name :D Actually, I have found that for some strange reason my specific VPN will not work with siduction kernels, but Liquorix seems to do the trick. I should probably find out why :D
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Unread post by rhowaldt » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:30 am

@Dr: good luck with the Dutch! feel free to start a thread on it somewhere if you have questions etc. happy to explain :)
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Unread post by dkeg » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:20 pm

Thanks DC, I was curious how and what was going on process wise with swm. BTW, there are a few things you could do to clean that tree up a bit.
  • First question is why sxhkd and .xbindkeys running?
    Second, I posted a thread about getting rid of *logsave

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Re: swm

Unread post by Dr_Chroot » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:28 pm

^ Thanks! I forgot to remove the xbindkeys from my .xinitrc :)

And I think I followed your *logsave thread more or less correctly... This is what it should look like. Right?

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init-+-chef-client---{ruby-timer-thr}
     |-compton
     |-dbus-daemon
     |-5*[getty]
     |-ifup---sh---dhclient
     |-login---startx---xinit-+-Xorg
     |                        `-swm-+-bar
     |                              |-compton
     |                              |-gm
     |                              |-hsetroot
     |                              |-light
     |                              |-setxkbmap
     |                              |-statsbar---sleep
     |                              |-sxhkd
     |                              |-xrdb
     |                              `-xsetroot
     |-logsave
     |-openvpn
     |-ruby-+-{ruby-timer-thr}
     |      `-{ruby}
     |-sshd
     |-tty-clock
     |-udevd
     |-urxvt-+-bash-+-less
     |       |      `-pstree
     |       `-urxvt
     `-wpa_supplicant
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Re: swm

Unread post by dkeg » Fri Feb 13, 2015 3:30 pm

Close. You skipped something. They should all be gone.

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